APEC工商領導人峯會奧巴馬對話馬雲

US President Barack Obama took time off at an Asia-Pacific meeting on Wednesday for an unusual task -- putting questions to Chinese internet billionaire Jack Ma and a young Filipina entrepreneur on government-business ties in a panel discussion.

本週三，美國總統奧巴馬在亞太會議上會見了中國互聯網大亨馬雲和一名菲律賓年輕企業家，他們就政府和商業之間的關係展開了不同尋常的討論。

Obama joked comfortably with the founder and executive chairman of Alibaba Group Holding Ltd, which is looking to make inroads into foreign markets, including the United States.

奧巴馬和阿里巴巴的創始人及董事長馬雲打趣稱，阿里巴巴可以在美國和其他一些國家尋求出路。

During the discussion on the sidelines of the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit in Manila, the US president probed Ma on how he thought government and established businesses could help young entrepreneurs.

這次APEC（亞太經合組織）峯會在馬尼拉舉行，美國總統奧巴馬和馬雲探討如何讓政府和企業幫助更多的年輕的企業家。

"Government is simple - just reduce the tax, or no tax, for these guys," Ma responded, to a wave of laughter and applause from the audience of business executives.

“這對於政府很簡單，政府只需要減少稅收或者不收稅，這就對這些企業家大有幫助。”馬雲回答道，引來場下商業人士陣陣歡笑和掌聲。

Ma's remarks come as Alibaba works to invest heavily in ventures abroad. Executives have said its push beyond the China market is a top priority, as the company works to maintain its rapid growth. Alibaba has said some of its larger overseas markets include Brazil and Russia.

馬雲說道阿里巴巴將會大力擴大海外投資。一些商業人士表示，阿里巴巴要保持其快速的成長速度，擴大其海外公司的擴張是極其重要的。阿里巴巴表示其最大的海外市場包括巴西和俄羅斯。

Obama also praised the relatively unknown Filipina entrepreneur, Aisa Mijeno, a professor of engineering who invented a lamp powered by salt water. He suggested that Ma should invest in the company of his fellow panellist after she said she was looking for funding to mass-produce the lamps.

奧巴馬稱讚了一位並不出名的菲律賓企業家Mijeno，他也是一名工程教授。他發明了用鹽水來供電的電燈。奧巴馬建議馬雲應該投資這家公司並尋求資金大規模生產這樣的檯燈。

Ma added that he thought it was a "fantastic idea" to invest in clean technology, referring to a recent conversation in which Microsoft Corp co-founder Bill Gates broached the idea.

馬雲表示，投資潔淨科技這是個非常好的方法，這也是最近微軟創始人比爾蓋茨非常贊同的觀點。